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062 From Grief to Growth: Margy Feldhuhn's Journey of Transformation and Neurosomatic Healing

• Dimple Thakrar / Margy Feldhuhn • Season 1 • Episode 62

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Hello and welcome back to Beyond the Words with me, Dimple Thakra. Today, I’m thrilled to introduce you to a very special guest, Margy, whom I’m meeting for the first time. This episode is filled with profound insights, heartfelt stories, and a deep dive into resilience and transformation.

Episode Summary

In this episode, Margy shares her deeply personal journey of loss and how it propelled her into a path of transformation and success. After losing her father to suicide, Margy faced immense grief and a challenging task of cleaning her hoarded family home. This experience not only brought about personal growth but also prepared her for unexpected career opportunities. Margy’s story is a testament to the power of surrender, perseverance, and finding alignment in life’s most challenging moments.

Margy’s work as a neurosomatic coach and co-owner of two successful businesses, Interview Connections and Brain Based Wellness, highlights how passion and resilience can lead to incredible transformations. This episode is not just about overcoming adversity but also about the importance of following your passion, no matter how unconventional it may seem.

Key Takeaways

  1. Embracing Grief and Transformation: Margy’s journey from profound loss to personal and professional growth showcases the transformative power of facing grief head-on and finding strength in vulnerability.
  2. The Power of Surrender: Margy’s story emphasizes the importance of surrendering to the unknown and trusting the process, even when the path ahead is unclear.
  3. Finding Alignment: Margy’s success in various fields underscores the significance of following your passion and staying aligned with your true self.
  4. Practical Resilience: Simple practices like asking for help and expressing gratitude can have a profound impact on your mental and emotional well-being.
  5. Neurosomatic Healing: Margy’s introduction to applied neurology and neuro somatic healing offers a new perspective on trauma processing and personal development.
  6. The Role of Community and Support: Margy’s experiences highlight the importance of seeking support from friends, professionals, and even strangers during difficult times.

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Beyond the Words EP62

[00:00:00] Dimple: Hello and welcome back to Beyond the Words with me Dimple Thakra. Today I have a guest who I have to tell you I haven't met in person. This is the first time we're actually connecting which is quite unusual for me, for my guests, but I feel called. to invite this guest on to Beyond the Words. And I have no idea why, other than we met for a mutual mentor.

[00:00:24] Dimple: I'm excited to learn more with you. And without further ado, I would love to invite Maggie to the show. To the stage, to the platform. Welcome. Welcome. So thank you so much for saying yes and coming on and us having this conversation. What I love to start off with is the story of why is it that you do what you do, and we'll go deeper into that, but let's get started.

[00:00:57] Dimple: I love the background. I love to know what makes you do the magic that you do in the world. 

[00:01:05] Margy: Yeah. That's such a big question. Usually where I start is I lost my dad and I have a podcast about this actually in 2015, I lost my dad to suicide. And that was a really big, like pivotal, really transformational moment for me.

[00:01:23] Margy: Obviously a very like, Horrific moment, but that was the first time that I really experienced all the profound transformation that comes from a loss that deep because I had never experienced anything like that. I love you. I love you and I love to speak. I was 26 and he was 56, exactly 30 years apart. And I was living in Taipei, Taiwan as an English teacher at the time.

[00:01:53] Margy: And so it was just totally life shattering. I was pretty, before that happened, pretty ungrounded, pretty unsure of what I really wanted to do. I love to travel and I was teaching English, but I knew I didn't want to do that. As a career. I knew I was not great at teaching kids and didn't really love it.

[00:02:15] Margy: It's a way of traveling, yeah, like getting paid to travel. And they were really cute, but there's a lot of people who are much better at that than I am. Yeah, so just a little bit aimless. And then when I came home from my teaching job and my partner at the time was like, you need to call your mom and my parents were together.

[00:02:33] Margy: So usually it would be like, you need to call your parents. And I was like, Oh, this is going to be bad, but I didn't think it would be that bad yet. And so I called my mom and it was also like, 5 a. m. her time. So it's like not a casual conversation time. So I Skyped her and she told me what happened and that just set off this chain of events.

[00:02:54] Margy: So I, we sold all my stuff in Taiwan. I had planned to go on this backpacking trip through Asia. So I traveled for a month, like I sold everything. I quit my job. I traveled for a month and then I went back home to deal with organizing the memorial service. And then also my, I grew up in a hoarded house.

[00:03:17] Margy: And so I had decided in Taiwan that I was going to clean out my parents house because I was like, I can't take this anymore. I'm just gonna clean it for them. It's gonna be great. I did a bunch of research. Like I found a bunch of experts who could help. I like read blog posts on it. And so I 

[00:03:33] Dimple: got 

[00:03:33] Margy: home. 

[00:03:34] Dimple: So when you say hoarded house, you're talking about like stuff, just lots and lots of stuff.

[00:03:41] Margy: Yes. Lots of stuff. And there was a lot of pets in the house, which that wasn't on them. That was on me. I took home a lot of stray animals. I saw that 

[00:03:52] Dimple: you're an animal 

[00:03:53] Margy: Yeah. So there was stuff everywhere. And then Cats were peeing everywhere. Like it was a mess and it was a really big house.

[00:04:01] Margy: It is, my mom still lives there. It's a really big house. It's like a six bedroom house. So it was like a massive job. So I came home. And we did the memorial and then I spent five months cleaning this house. Like I start at 5 a. m. Every day. And I would collapse that night cause I was so exhausted.

[00:04:23] Margy: And then I would just start over the next day. And that was a really transformational experience for me because it, first of all, being in that, experiencing that type of grief is very transformational and it really just. Like changes you, you're never the same. And doing something that I never thought I could do, which is like clean this gigantic house that had always been this thing that growing up felt like impossible.

[00:04:50] Margy: This is just how it is. It's never going to change. And like finally be like, no, I'm going to change it. And it was incredible. And it was, it worked. The house was cleaned. And I ended up moving with my partner at the time then to another state because he was starting a PhD program. And then the kind of next layer of the grief hit without the house as a distraction and I was in a new state where I didn't know anyone and I didn't have any support.

[00:05:19] Margy: So like in retrospect, it went exactly how you would think it would have gone, but in the moment it was a surprise that everything went off the rails at that point. And I went to therapy. I started processing my trauma. I started dealing with my issues. I really wasn't a very good partner at all.

[00:05:37] Margy: So my relationship ended because of me, because I didn't know how to handle my grief. I was taken out of my partner. So I ended up moving back in with my mom and the kind of silver lining there was I had gotten this job because An old coworker had seen my post on Facebook that my dad had died and I needed people to come to the house and pick up pets and take care of them temporarily until I could get home from Asia because my mom was like totally overwhelmed.

[00:06:10] Margy: And Jess, my now business partner who I used to work without a job, out of college, had just lost her cat. And she was like, yeah, I can come pick up a cat. No, it's great. Thank you so much. And she was an acquaintance at this point, but I was like, I will take any help I can get. Perfect.

[00:06:28] Margy: The animals. The animals every time. It's always the animals. Yeah. And so I ended up Reconnecting with her because she, and she still has this cat. This cat is 20 years old right now. And we stayed, I think so. It loves her son so much, which is so cute. But we stayed in touch. I saw that she was posting about interview connections, this business that she had started booking people on podcasts, which I had no idea what she was talking about.

[00:06:56] Margy: I knew nothing about online business or podcasts. I truly, I was like, I don't know what this girl is saying, but she posted that she was hiring for contractor positions and I was like, I would love to work from home and we had worked together before, so she knew what I was like professionally. And so I became a contractor booking interviews for interview connections.

[00:07:17] Margy: And when I moved back home with my mom, after my relationship ended, I still had this job cause it was remote. And. Really focused on like therapy and personal development and interview connections and ended up becoming the first employee of the company in 2017 and then 50 percent owner and CEO in 2018.

[00:07:38] Margy: And so it was this really wild, really sharp life turn. 

[00:07:44] Dimple: Yeah. You basically collapsed time because you were fully aligned. You were doing something that you fully aligned, right? Which sounds basic. I don't mean to make it that ba it's not basic, but what you did was you decided what you wanted and it wasn't the norm and you just went for it.

[00:08:02] Dimple: And I think your life experiences, it sounds like even at that young age. Set you up for that. You made a decision. You climbed the mountain that was this huge mac, huge house, right? Yeah. Yeah.

[00:08:17] Margy: And I think I had, I don't want to say an advantage because I really wouldn't wish this upon anyone, but there's always, I think a little bit of a silver lining to forced surrender.

[00:08:31] Margy: And so because of Life circumstances, I was so stripped bare of everything else that there was this kind of pure alignment in a lot of these moments and this just dogged determination to just keep going, which in a growing young business is like the perfect. Person to have in there.

[00:08:55] Margy: And I had just come out of this, like, this house project that was totally overwhelming. Everything was constantly going wrong. It felt totally impossible. People kept saying give up, just give up. And I like, wouldn't do it. And so after that, I came into Interview Connections and it was a really transitional time because we were letting go of all the independent contractors, hiring local employees.

[00:09:18] Margy: We got like a local office. And we had no idea what we were doing, but I was like the perfect person to help with it because compared to everything I'd just done, it felt easy. So I was like, Oh, great, we'll figure it out. 

[00:09:32] Dimple: I just love that. And I love the way that you turned something that was for some people and rightly to lose a parent at such a young age and also prematurely And to suicide, that in itself, so many things, right?

[00:09:51] Dimple: So many things because he chose. 

[00:09:54] Margy: Yeah. And that in and of itself is a complex thing. It's mostly worse because it's like, it's not just like coming to terms with never seeing them again, but also coming to terms with them being so much more unhappy than you ever realized. And then there's another part that's it's a, like it was his choice.

[00:10:13] Margy: So there is some peace with that, that he got to make. a choice rather than a choice being made for him. So it's very complex. It's a very complex type of grief and I think I feel differently about it almost day to day, like it's. 

[00:10:29] Dimple: I love the way that you've made, more than lemonade out of lemons though.

[00:10:34] Dimple: Right? Talk to us about that. That journey. Because that's quite profound. Especially in the short space of time that you've achieved it all. For some people it takes a lifetime. I know, I lost my mum when I was 22 and she was 47. So I know what it is to lose a parent prematurely and I know how long it took me to process all that. And it was a long time, right? So I just wondered, what is 

[00:11:01] Margy: it? 

[00:11:03] Dimple: What was that process like for you? How did you realize so quickly that you had to create something good like the podcast from that, like shifting and the learning and the personal development? Because you could have gone a different way completely, right?

[00:11:19] Margy: Yes, it helped. I think that I had done some personal development before it happened. And and I also, and I know you and your show, there's a lot of just like surrender and going with the flow. It's not the type of thing where I could break down like, here's my five steps to go from trauma to like CEO, like there are certain points where I'm like, I have no idea.

[00:11:42] Margy: Yeah, but, yeah, and there's some stuff where it's and I have, I've written blog posts about the steps I took and the things that I think really had a positive impact. And then there's also this ingredient of I have no idea why that worked. I did the things, but the results from them, I think, had a lot to do with like alignment and surrender and the universe.

[00:12:10] Margy: And so it was just like this perfect timing, this perfect matching up of like how I was showing up and the work I was doing on myself and the opportunities that were there at that exact moment. And it all just came together to create that quantum leap. Wow. 

[00:12:26] Dimple: Wow. 

[00:12:28] Margy: For the 

[00:12:29] Dimple: viewers out there, I want you to hear this.

[00:12:31] Dimple: I want this to land. What I like to do, Maggie, is just reiterate some real golden nuggets for it to land, right? Because What we underestimate is the power of the surrender. What we underestimate is the power of the courage of stepping into the unknown. And we were talking about it just before we started, the power of trusting you're going to be okay either way.

[00:12:59] Dimple: You're going to be okay either way. And this whole piece on energetics, right? This strategy piece is so valuable, but without the energetics, you need both. And actually, I would even go far as to say the energetics is the primary, because once you have the energetics in place, any strategy will work, right?

[00:13:22] Dimple: Yeah. As long as it's aligned. As long as it's fully aligned, right? And so I want this to land for people, look what happened here, through one of the most tragic times, this beautiful young woman at a very, I would say, an age stage in your life is. is is pivotal, but I actually believe that the stage and the season you were in, it really could have impacted in a very different way, in a very different way, and yet you chose to process it.

[00:14:01] Dimple: Not bury it and as a result you were aligned and the universe provided in the most magical way Because like you say you were having to surrender there was actually I want to ask you this Was there ever a moment where there was a choice? a surrender or control. 

[00:14:23] Margy: Yes. And I think when you tell the story after the fact, it's so tied up in a neat bow, but when you're actually in it, it's a very nonlinear journey.

[00:14:36] Margy: And every day was not inspiring on my part. I will say it's, once you can look Back and join up the dots. You're like, wow, that's wild. But when you're in it, you have no idea where this is going. There's many times where it's feeling very hopeless. So if anybody's still in that place, like it takes a lot of faith.

[00:14:56] Margy: And sometimes you don't even have the faith and you're just like putting one foot in front of the other. But I do remember a moment of, I went to my best friend at the time was going to AA meetings and was like. Do you want to go to an AA meeting? And I had just gotten home from Taiwan after my dad died.

[00:15:17] Margy: And it was like one of the most brutal winters our state had ever had. There was just like four feet of snow on either side of the road. It was like coming out like five feet into the road. Like no one could park. There was no, it was just like so cold. There was it was miserable. And she was like, do you want to come to an AA meeting?

[00:15:36] Margy: And I was like, that sounds great because a bunch of people at rock bottom is like a real vibrational match for where I am in this moment. So it sounded actually really good. So we go to AA, it's a pretty big meeting. It's in this basement of a church and there's a lot, there must have been like 40 people there at least.

[00:15:58] Margy: I know. It's a random thing for your friend to ask you to do, side note, just saying. She's always on some adventure. She's a very fun friend. And she was like, I want to go to a meeting. Do you want to come? And I was like, actually, yes. I'd love to. And there was this person, this woman who shared, and she was, everybody was having a rough time because these, are alcoholics.

[00:16:24] Margy: A lot of them are dealing with seasonal depression. We are in like, The dead of winter. And it's a terrible winter. It's so cold. No one can go outside. So people are not doing well. And again, I am a vibrational match for this room. I'm just like, I'm in it. I'm here with them. We are here together. Yes, I'm home.

[00:16:44] Margy: And so one girl stands up and she was so funny. You could tell that she had that class clown personality. And which was such a nice tension break in this room of all of us who are so depressed. And she said, I started praying. And she said, I'm not religious. And this resonated with me because I'm not religious, but she was like, I'm not religious.

[00:17:08] Margy: And I always had this idea that in order to pray, it had to be like this, like super special thing. My frontal lobes have to be glowing. Like it's gotta be like this ceremony. And yes, I was laughing. I thought that was funny. And she said, but you know what I started doing? In the morning, I started saying, Help me.

[00:17:32] Margy: And at night, I said, thank you. Wow. Wow. And it blew my mind. Like it still gives me chills. And so I started doing that. And that was a turning point because before that, Everything was going wrong. Like I would hire people to help with the house and then they'd disappear. I would uncover a problem that would then uncover a bunch more problems.

[00:17:59] Margy: And there was still a lot of problems after this point, but when she told me that, and I started doing that in the morning saying, help me and at night saying, thank you, I was like, And I remember multiple times, like I'd clear out a little space in the clutter to do my exercise, roll out my yoga mat.

[00:18:16] Margy: And I remember one time specifically, I'm lying on my yoga mat in my little space that I created in the clutter, just like on my back, just saying Help me. And I can feel the tears like rolling down my face into my ears. You know how that happens when you're lying down and just saying help me and help me.

[00:18:38] Margy: I said it a few times and like that I had never being like not a religious person being a control freak. I had never hit that point of surrender before. And I really believe that was like a turning point in that journey. 

[00:18:52] Dimple: So profound, Maggie, what you're saying is, it's it's the simplest things, right?

[00:19:00] Dimple: Yes. And you get sent angels to deliver these simple messages. in the weirdest places, in the weirdest ways, at the exact divine time of when you need it. 

[00:19:15] Margy: Yeah. Yeah. And I think one of the many benefits of challenge is that you're uniquely ready to listen. Whereas when you're just like going, you're doing to your to do list, everything's going fine.

[00:19:29] Margy: It's you almost don't hear things sometimes, but I do think there are silver linings to sadness. And one of them is You're just there and you're listening and you catch these things that might have just rolled off your back before and they land and they just change everything. 

[00:19:46] Dimple: And so see that it's so true in those.

[00:19:49] Dimple: moments of sadness is when you're surrendering to love, you're surrendering to help and asking, right? Yeah. And then the peace sealing the day with gratitude. So then being getting the, in the receivership frequency. Yeah. Just, yeah. Just beautiful. What I love about what you said was that, somebody out there might be going through something and connecting with this message and to know that it wasn't always easy every day.

[00:20:24] Dimple: I can't even begin to imagine what the house to clear. My dad is a bit of a hoarder and me and my sisters have said, we'll just take care of it when he passes. We'll just he's 83, he's going to live forever. It's not. We're not, it's just, we'll let him be. And it's a smaller house, it's only two bedrooms at three.

[00:20:48] Dimple: And what's interesting is that the thought of having to deal with all of that is overwhelming and there's three of us, right? So I can't even begin to imagine how you managed it. Like the strength it took for such a big house at that time. And you still witnessing you clearing the space to Self care.

[00:21:19] Margy: Yeah. Yeah. And I think a lot of people are in that situation because hoarding tends to get worse with age. So even if your parent wasn't a hoarder, as parents become elderly, it can become a little bit more of a problem. I will say to anyone feeling overwhelmed at the thought of that in the future, it is doable.

[00:21:40] Margy: You can reach out to me. I have people reach out to me sometimes who I don't know on social media who are cleaning up a hoarded house. Yeah. And they'll be like, do you have any tips for getting cat pee out of a hardwood floor? And I'm like, of course I do. And I'll like voice message them. But I will say though, whether it's like, your elderly parent has passed away or they're moving into assisted living.

[00:22:02] Margy: There is, I truly believe that it's a gift and an honor To be the one to process their things and to hold each thing and to close out this life or this chapter of a life. And it was hard, but I have to say I loved my dad. He was a wonderful person and it was an honor to do that for him. 

[00:22:26] Dimple: No, I understand that because when mom passed, me and my sisters went through all her salaries, all her, and like the smell of her, right?

[00:22:35] Dimple: Yeah. That, just that, and the memory of those clothes and when they wore them and we got to distribute some of her saris and some of her jewellery and, and what's interesting is actually as you're speaking it, I've got this memory, I went to see Dad last weekend, and this memory of I went up to one of his rooms and he was showing me all of Mum's old coats, like Mum has passed 28 years ago, and he still, and he pulled one out, this purple coat that she loved, and he has it dry cleaned.

[00:23:08] Dimple: In the plastic. Oh, I love that. Made me realize that actually these things, it doesn't matter how they choose to live. What matters is that they're happy. What matters is it makes them happy, right? Yes. Because often we can judge people for hoarding, we can judge homes for and it, all that matters at the end of the day is what makes you happy.

[00:23:33] Dimple: And, you know, That connection. So tell me, tell me a little bit about the you've become a neurosomatic. Coach, right? Is that the correct term? 

[00:23:44] Margy: Yes. 

[00:23:46] Dimple: Yeah. Tell me about that. 

[00:23:47] Margy: I'm excited to hear. So that was also an interesting turn of events. So at Interview Connections, we work with a ton of incredible online entrepreneurs.

[00:23:58] Margy: We book them as guests on podcasts. We have a whole podcast. Team. They're amazing. And so we had a client sign up in 2020, Elizabeth, who, her expert, her expertise was applied neurology and neuro somatic healing and trauma processing. Which of course I'm very interested in all things, trauma processing because of what happened.

[00:24:21] Margy: And I had never seen what she was doing before. I had done a lot of talk therapy. I had done EMDR therapy, which is in the same vein as like applied neurology. And so what she was doing is all of these different drills, all of these different types of movements tapping looking at different things with your eyes, moving your eyes differently, all types of things.

[00:24:46] Margy: There's like hundreds, probably thousands of them breathing into a bag to change your CO2 levels. It was all, I had never heard of any of this and I started doing it and I got more transformation than I had ever gotten from like probably doing it. Decades of therapy at this point. And I was like, this is incredible.

[00:25:08] Margy: What is this? And you can test them. Like you do a mobility test because when your nervous system gets more regulated, your body gets looser. And so you can do shoulder mobility tests or like turning your head and then do the neuro drills. And if it's a positive drill for your nervous system, you.

[00:25:24] Margy: Instantly get so much more mobility. It's like a party trick. It's wild. And I was like, what is this? And I started doing neuro drills regularly. And I noticed that my personality started to change. Like my capacity for stress started getting bigger. I got much less reactive with my wife, who can attest to this.

[00:25:51] Margy: I just had much more patience. It was the single biggest transformation that I've ever seen after a lifetime of like personal development and therapy and trying everything. And I still love personal growth and I'm an advocate of therapy, but I had just never seen this before. And so I got more and more into it.

[00:26:10] Margy: She started offering a certification course in, I think it was 2023 Neurosomatic Intelligence. And I was like, I want to do this. And I hadn't I get on these tangents and I'm like, I have no idea how this is relevant. Yeah. But I just become obsessed with things. And I was like, I own a podcast booking business.

[00:26:33] Margy: So this is It was like, what, how 

[00:26:37] Dimple: do these match? 

[00:26:38] Margy: They don't but I just got so interested in it because my own results were so incredible. So I took her certification course. I got certified to be a neurosomatic coach and then I just started. She's amazing. And I started talking to her all the time about the neuron.

[00:26:54] Margy: I was so excited about what are the different things we can do with this and the different applications for like leaders and all types of things, because it really impacted me as a leader and my ability to show up and. set the tone of a regulated nervous system in the organization, which is like 90 percent I think of having a successful organization is the nervous systems involved in how they're communicating.

[00:27:17] Margy: And then we started talking about her business about brain based wellness, which is this membership site that also offers private coaching in applied neurology, like the thing that I had become obsessed with. And I was a client of it. And so we're just like talking business all the time. And eventually.

[00:27:36] Margy: Again, I ended up becoming a 50 percent equity partner in this company. And so it's been so cool and it's a totally different model and business because Interview Connections is a done for you service. We're an agency. We, we have a, Agile team. We use Scrum, but we're a typical done for you service agency.

[00:27:58] Margy: And Brain Based Wellness is primarily a membership site. And it again has private coaching options and stuff, but the core of it is a membership site. So it's a very different model than I've ever done. I got so passionate about this stuff because the changes I was seeing myself, I was like, everybody needs to try this.

[00:28:14] Margy: And so that's how I ended up doing both things. I love that. I 

[00:28:20] Dimple: love the diversity. What I'm hearing very strongly, and I want this to land as well for the audience. Follow your passion. Follow your passion. It doesn't have to make sense. It doesn't have to connect. You just have to love doing it. You just have to be so passionate about it.

[00:28:41] Dimple: Yeah. 

[00:28:46] Margy: Yeah. And it, becoming so passionate about cleaning the house, I never could have predicted how well that would then apply to growing an agency. And then with the neurosomatic stuff, how important nervous system regulation would be both for my personal relationships, but also for my leadership as the CEO of Interview Connections.

[00:29:06] Margy: It, everything like just ends up coming together. And I'm sure in a few years it will have come together even more in ways that I like couldn't possibly imagine now. 

[00:29:16] Dimple: And something else that's coming through really strongly and I want to do this is to honor your father because in his death, he gifted you these gifts, right?

[00:29:27] Dimple: Yes. Yeah. You would never have cleaned that house had he still have been alive. You'd have never had to figure out ways to deal with stru with trauma. Sometimes we get gifted things in the weirdest ways, right? Yeah, I agree. So just to take a moment for everyone out there, if you're going through something that's tough, sometimes it's hard to see it in the moment.

[00:29:56] Dimple: If you can honor. that moment. I believe that the clarity and the cloud will lift much sooner if you can just take it in a weird way, honoring your father's passing, right? Yeah, definitely. It's, I feel the same, Roberta. I had five babies transition through me, and I feel the same way. It was an honor and privilege that they transitioned through me, that they chose me, right?

[00:30:27] Dimple: And as a result, I ended up having Kira, because I wouldn't have had her, had those babies. stayed. Yeah. And and now she is an incredible child that has been our greatest teacher. But it's in that honoring of what is. The path is not always clear, right? It doesn't have to be. Like you've shown us today so profoundly, Maggie, you've shown us that if you can just trust and yes, it's not going to be an easy path.

[00:31:01] Dimple: Yes, there will be bumps on the way. There will be bumps. 

[00:31:06] Margy: Yeah. Yeah, and with those quantum leaps even if 80 percent of the time you're like, I have no idea what I'm doing and I'm really questioning if this is if I'm doing anything right now, when you just keep putting one foot in front of the other and you have those like moments of passion, okay, this way, and then those moments of that you're less inspired, but you keep going and it does work out.

[00:31:30] Dimple: How do you know? Let me ask you a question that's coming through. How do you know that even when it doesn't feel so good, that you're still aligned with passion? What is it that lets you know to keep moving forward? 

[00:31:42] Margy: That's a great question because there really are, there's these moments of like excitement of like this.

[00:31:49] Margy: I'm so excited about this. I'm so passionate about this. And then there's a lot of like kind of drudgery, like a lot of days where I'm just like I don't feel super inspired, but I think it's just there's enough of those moments where the like next beacon lights up where you're like, okay, and I think it's just not panicking when you have days or I've had weeks, especially I'm 19 weeks pregnant right now.

[00:32:15] Margy: All the first trimester. I was just like, thank you. But that was a dark time. I was in bed like every day. I felt so sick. And so I think part of it, yeah, I think part of it though, even if you're not, pregnant and sick is not panicking that you don't feel over the top excited and inspired every moment or every day.

[00:32:41] Margy: Because you can still create those quantum leaps and it's still doing the work, working on yourself consistently, continuing on. And I think that's the big thing. I think people panic when they're like, I don't feel inspired today. And at least in my experience, like I don't feel inspired every day, but it's enough.

[00:33:00] Margy: What 

[00:33:00] Dimple: I'm hearing you say. Loud and clear it is that not to get stuck in the mud. If you're in the mud, that's okay. Yeah. It's okay. Just be okay with it, yeah. Because the more you fight it, the deeper you get in it. Yeah, 

[00:33:21] Margy: Yes. And don't compare to people's highlight reels. And even like this story, I'm just giving you the cliff notes.

[00:33:27] Margy: So it sounds really impressive, but Believe me, there are days where if you had been a fly on the wall, you would have been like, this girl is a mess. Woof. I think people compare themselves and they're like, these people are doing this incredible stuff and I'm feeling stuck, but it's easy. It sounds inspiring when you just pull these markers of the story, but we are, we all have the messy middle.

[00:33:54] Margy: Yes, 

[00:33:55] Dimple: I love that. Thank you so much for coming today. It's been, oh, it's been a wonderful journey of inspiration and reality checks and truth and laughter and wow, congratulations on your baby. Is this the first one? Yes. Yes. Yes. Are you excited? Yes. Do you know 

[00:34:20] Margy: what you're having? Are you revealing? Yes.

[00:34:23] Margy: We're having a girl and it, the the decision to have a child was really interesting and it really felt like, When my dad died, my life was ripped apart and I didn't have a choice. And this time I feel like I'm choosing to let my life be ripped apart and birth and death. They're two sides of the same coin.

[00:34:44] Margy: So I'm like, let's see what happens after the dust settles from this one. Who knows where I'll be. I would 

[00:34:50] Dimple: say that's the best attitude to have to motherhood. Honestly, I have two girls, one's 25 and one's 20. And. Yeah, I tried to control everything with Maya the first. I wouldn't recommend that route. Okay, good to know.

[00:35:10] Dimple: Just wouldn't. I'd just be like, go with the flow. It's not always going to be perfect. There's going to be moments where you're sat on 

[00:35:17] Margy: the floor crying. Yeah, it's okay. And then I'll come back to saying help me in the morning and thank you at night. Night. Perfect. 

[00:35:27] Dimple: Oh, this has been incredible. Thank you so much.

[00:35:30] Dimple: So I have one final question that I ask all my guests and that is actually before that question, where can people find you? Where can people find your, 

[00:35:40] Margy: so our podcast Booking agency is Interview Connections. So that's interview connections.com. Brain-based dot com is the neuro somatic training membership site.

[00:35:51] Margy: And then I am on Instagram at, Hey Margie and I also have a personal website, margie.com. It's where I keep my blog and stuff like that. I don't sell anything on that website, but I have a lot of content there. My podcast is there. Okay, 

[00:36:05] Dimple: amazing. Thank you so much. And all that will be on the show notes, so if you didn't catch it, look at the show notes, it will all be there.

[00:36:13] Dimple: The final question. If you could give the viewers one piece of advice. that goes beyond the words. What would that be?

[00:36:24] Margy: I think it really would be the surrender. And if you don't know where to start with that, I would highly recommend just asking for help aloud. The help me and thank you is a powerful place to be.

[00:36:39] Dimple: That was amazing. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. So viewers, audience. Once again, I want to say it's a privilege and honor for you to share your space, your time, your energy with us today. I hope this message lands in the perfect divine time for you in whatever way, shape or form. I hope that it touches your heart, that it makes you laugh or smile.

[00:37:09] Dimple: One or all three of the above would be amazing. So without further ado take care for now and God bless.

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Dimple Thakrar

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Jo Day

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Margy Feldhuhn

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